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RAF Woodbridge in RAF Bentwaters were

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known as the twin bases separated by an

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area of woodland called the Rendlesham

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forest the two installations in suffolk

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southeast England were perhaps the

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United States most important military

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complexes during the Cold War and they

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held a dark secret even today it's not

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officially acknowledged that nuclear

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weapons were being stored at the bases a

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complete violation of the US and UK's

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treaty obligations but another secret

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was being held in that forest in almost

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40 years later it remains one of the

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most famous UFO cases of all time this

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is the story of the incident in

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Rendlesham forest this is somewhere in

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the skies the brains

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it was a rather quiet and cold night in

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1980 it's probably not much fun to be on

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security duty on Christmas night

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thousands of miles from home in a cold

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British military base in England

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twenty-year-old American patrol sergeant

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John burrows had the short straw that

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night guarding RAF Woodbridge 'as lonely

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Eastgate which edged into the dark woods

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of the neighboring Rendlesham forest as

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the 25th turned into the 26th Burroughs

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looked out into the darkness and saw

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something strange colored lights

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appeared to be hovering and dancing over

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the trees was this some sort of

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Christmas display Burroughs had an

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uneasy feeling that it was something

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unusual and drove back to the gatehouse

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to inform this security control security

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policeman Jim Penniston joined Burroughs

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at the gate to observe the lights in his

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two years of working at the base the 26

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year old Penniston had never seen lights

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in the Rendlesham woods before but had

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witnessed several small aircraft crashes

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during his career and felt that this

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might explain what the men were seen

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relating this possibility to the

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security tower at around 3 a.m.

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Penniston Burroughs and fellow Airmen

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Eadie cabin SEC were given permission to

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venture out into the forest to

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investigate I then ordered Airmen Caban

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Zack a one-seed burls to respond with me

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off-site when we arrived did spected

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crash site it quickly became apparent

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that we were not dealing with a plane

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crash or for that matter anything else

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we've ever responded to there was a

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bright light emanating from an object on

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the forest floor

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as we approached it on foot a silhouette

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triangular craft about nine feet long

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six and a half feet high came into view

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the craft was fully intact and sitting

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in a small clearing just inside the

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woods as the three of us got closer to

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the craft we started experiencing radio

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difficulties

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I then asked airman kanban sack to relay

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the radio transmissions back to our

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control center Burl's and i proceeded

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towards the craft the air around them

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according to Penniston seemed to be

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filled with electricity was surging

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through them as they approached the

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object when we came up on the triangular

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shaped craft there were blue and yellow

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lights swirling around the exterior as

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though they're a part of the surface

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nothing in my training prepared me for

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what I was witnessing after ten minutes

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without any apparent aggression I

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determined the craft was not hostile to

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my team and to the base following the

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security protocols we completed a

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thorough on-site investigation this

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includes a full physical examination of

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the craft which included photographs and

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my notebook entries I had a time and

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relays with the radio through airman

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commands act to our control center on

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one side of the craft there were symbols

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that measured three inches high and

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their approximate about two and a half

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feet long the feeling I had during the

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encounter was like no type of aircraft

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that I've ever seen before it was a

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change book of no one aircraft or

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anything I've seen sense

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Penniston scribbled furiously in his

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notebook drawing as best he could the

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shape of the object but found it

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increasingly difficult to write as if

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some strange force was weighing him down

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the light from the craft began to

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intensify Burl's and I then took a

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defensive position away from the craft

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as it lifted off the ground without any

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noise or air disturbance it maneuvered

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through the trees and shot off at an

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unbelievable rate of speed it was gone

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in a blink of an eye in my law book I

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wrote speed impossible that night over

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80 Air Force personnel all trained

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observers assigned to the 81st security

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police squadron witness to takeoff

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what on earth had the men witness

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whatever it was

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all three were reluctant to go back to

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their commanding officers and say that

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they've seen a UFO rumors had long

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circulated around the twin basis of

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lights in the sky but most Airmen prefer

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to keep such reports to themselves for

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fear of ridicule and returning to the

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base

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the men were laid would Penniston

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described as a sanitized account of the

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encounter to their commanding officer

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Lieutenant Fred Bering and were informed

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that the nearby radar base had also

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reported an unusual blip on the radar

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earlier the previous night was this the

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object the men had seen like so much of

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the Rendlesham incident we have official

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documents that confirm that this

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incident did indeed occur Barron's

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typewritten report dated January 2nd

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1981 confirms burrows and Penniston

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sighting Fred Buren affirms that the men

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are reliable and mature individuals and

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appear convinced that Penniston had

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indeed experienced something out of the

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realm of explanation for him at the time

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by now the strange lights over

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Rendlesham had also been reported to the

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local police returning the next morning

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with two officers from the Suffolk

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Constabulary burrows and Penniston tried

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to find the location of their mysterious

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nocturnal encounter happening upon what

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they believed was the same clearing the

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men saw three indentations in the ground

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often seized by skeptics the subsequent

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police report states that these

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indentations were actually nothing more

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than rabbit burrows Penniston however is

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adamant that they were not stating that

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the ground was frozen and it was

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impossible for that to have happened

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Penniston believes the officers were

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reluctant to state what the marks really

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were as like him they were worried that

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they'd be ridiculed supportive of

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penniston's integration was the fact

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that the three indentations formed an

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exact

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collateral triangle when measured out

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burrows and peniston's encounter in the

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woods might well have been dismissed as

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a mistake or even just Christmas hijinks

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if it wasn't for the events of the

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following two nights although the

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Rendlesham forest incident is usually

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reported as two nights of UFO activity

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the 25th to 26 and the 27th through 28

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there was actually a lesser reported

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sighting the following night 20 hours

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after the burrows and Penniston sighting

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18-year old basic airman Laurie rifled

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recalls her own series of events that

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night so I was on patrol at the time and

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I was I had a colleague with me airman

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is an airman Duffield we were both

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airman first class which is the III at

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the time and and we had just checked the

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lock on the gate and we were just

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filling out our check sheet and making

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sure everything and then we're just

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sitting there and it was about 2 or 3

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o'clock good morning and it was just

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really it was a it was a clear night

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wasn't raining out and we would just

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kind of you know board figure now we've

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got about four or five more hours left

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and yes we're just sitting there talking

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and all of us so we see this light

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approaching you know it was coming from

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the area the North Sea so it's coming

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west to east and at first it looked like

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in it looked like in a we thought it was

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regular aircraft coming in and

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and we look over at the at the runway

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waiting for the lights to go on figuring

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it well the aircraft coming in and and

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then it as it got closer and closer and

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now it's about maybe 200 it wasn't

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really that far it was just this it was

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a big light and it just stopped and this

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guy and I we're looking we noticed that

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the that the runway lights aren't on we

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only see it this light and then an else

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and it just stops in midair and then all

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senators moves up down left right and

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then it breaks into like three pieces

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and speeds across the runway and now

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we're stunned we're like what the we you

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know what was that so we immediately got

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on I got on a radio because we you know

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we were thinking what is that and we get

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on the radio and and I mean we were kind

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of excited about you know please control

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this is police four be advised but we

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couldn't see the aircraft itself the

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speed the rate of speed that it was

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moving when it went when I went across I

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mean it was moving in like a regular

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aircraft then when it's stopped and then

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when it did its movement and then when

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it split into three then when it went

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sped across the runway going was going

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west you know it was just going out of

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phenomenal speed and the only other

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thing that really caught our attention

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was that it didn't make any noise there

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was no sound to it at all and we were

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like you know this you know we just you

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know we just didn't know it was and

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asked us for the size it you know from

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the distance we were I guess I'd say it

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was probably about the size of a car or

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small truck or something it was probably

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about maybe two football length football

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field length so way news of the UFO

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sightings had by now reached the bases

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deputy commander Colonel Charles halt

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while attending a Christmas Awards party

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at the base on the night of the 27th

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lieutenant Bruce England rushed into the

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room and told Colonel Charles halt we've

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got to talk it's back

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halt then a 41 year old veteran of

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Vietnam and Korea had no patience for

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tales of UFOs and was irritated that his

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men were getting distracted from their

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duties with such nonsense determined to

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find the source of the lights once and

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for all halt led a search party in the

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Rendlesham forest to look for answers I

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took two senior patrolmen with me

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disaster preparedness expert and the

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reporting on-duty police officer at the

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site we find three one and a half inch

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indentations triangular pattern we

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discovered mild radiation and evidence

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of broken branches on the trees we

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suddenly observe a very bright

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red-orange object it was oval and with a

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black centre it reminded me of an eye

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and it appeared to be winking or

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blinking it maneuvered horizontally

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through the trees with an occasional

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vertical movement when approached it

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receded and silently broke into five

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white objects we moved out of the forest

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and onto a front pasture and observed

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several objects in the sky multiple

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objects to the north they change shape

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from elliptical Iran so where other

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objects were seen to the South one

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approach to very high speed and sent on

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a strange beam right at our feet it was

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different than an ordinary light and it

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didn't radiate it was more like a laser

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beam another object sent down beams the

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light into the weapons storage area the

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whole time we had difficulty

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communicating with the base as all three

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radio frequencies we were using kept

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breaking up this activity continued for

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about an hour during this entire event I

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was fortunate to have with me at my

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small pocket recorder it's a little in

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there recorder that I carried around the

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base you need to take notes because I

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didn't like to write much so I recorded

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all the significant events that happened

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that night unfortunately the tape

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recorder is no longer functional but I

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do have a tape and a good copy of it I

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have no idea what we saw that night but

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I do know with great certainty it was

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under intelligent control more on the

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halt audio tape in just a little bit

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from this point on many of those present

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during this search believe

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vast cover-up had begun even under the

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nose of a senior officer like Colonel

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Charles halt while halt himself tried to

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find out from his men what had happened

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other agencies swooped in to interrogate

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the men about the events of the previous

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three nights Jim Penniston recalls being

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repeatedly grilled about the incidents

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by the air force's office of

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intelligence even be an administered

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truth drug

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sodium Penton all on one occasion

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sergeant Adrian best Inza claims he was

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interrogated for hours

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in an underground part of the base by

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unnamed agents possibly from the CIA at

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Caban sac who had accompanied burrows

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and Penniston on the first night of

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activity says he was ordered to sign a

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false statement that concealed what he

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really saw Wing Commander Charles

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Gabriel in charge of all USAF forces in

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Europe made an unprecedented impromptu

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visit to the bases

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seizing much of halts evidence

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unbelievably halt was then told the

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United States had no official interest

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in this incident

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Goodin sure of just exactly what to do

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and with jurisdiction over the matter

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officially shared between the US and UK

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halt was told to hand the matter over to

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the British Ministry of Defence pulse

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January 13 1981 memo entitled

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unexplained lights summarizing the

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events of the weekend was sent to the

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British government but received a

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similar lack of interest for all those

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involved this seemed it marked the end

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of the matter and life on the base

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seemingly went back to normal outside of

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a bit of gossip among chief ologists

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events of that amazing weekend would

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probably have faded into obscurity that

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was until a sensational tabloid scoop

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nearly three years later blew the whole

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thing wide open

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UFO lands in Suffolk and that's official

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this was the headline in the UK's news

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of the world the paper had managed to

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obtain halts top-secret memo soon news

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outlets begin to pick up on the story

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CNN being one of the first networks to

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report CNN began asking the airforce for

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information about the Bentwaters UFO

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incident six months ago throughout the

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air force has been slow to respond and

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when it did reply the answer was usually

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quote unknown end quote or in some cases

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apparently misleading for example when

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CNN asked father any photographs tape

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recordings video tapes drawings or

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descriptions of any kind in air force

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files the official US Air Force reply

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was quote there was no audio visual

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documentation done and quote if it is a

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cover-up then the American public may

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never know what those Airmen saw at

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Bentwaters in 1980 if they were merely

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keystone cops who were hallucinating as

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one critic suggests from one of the

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national security implications of those

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same Airmen guarding a strategically

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important airbase where nuclear weapons

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are reportedly stored if they weren't

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hallucinating then what are the

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implications of what they actually did

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see when CNN recently asked the Air

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Force about the possible existence of

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movie film of the Bentwaters

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you fo the official air force response

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was the United States Air Force stopped

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investigating UFOs in 1969

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inconsistencies with witnesses is

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something that needs to be addressed

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Larry Warren a former American security

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officer was the first person to come

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forward about what happened in the

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forest Warren had originally been

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anonymously leaking stories about

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Rendlesham to the UFO community for

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years and his remarkable account of what

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he saw would prove to be very divisive

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amongst the other witnesses according to

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the then 19-year old Warren it wasn't

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just lights or a craft that was seen but

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actual beings as well Warren would also

403
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make some startling claims about how men

404
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in black style agents had interrogated

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him and messed with his mind possibly

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planting false or distorted memories

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Rendlesham forest was starting to move

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from a well-documented encounter with a

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mysterious light to a following craft

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and now full-scale science fiction the

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integrity of Larry Warren's testimony is

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still up for debate until today but it

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does need to be addressed in the overall

414
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picture of the Rendlesham forest

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incident despite inconsistencies and

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controversy this UFO incident had

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something most cases did not the words

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of a senior American Air Force colonel

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in an official memo

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the credibility of the document even led

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to questions being asked of the venn

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conservative government in the UK

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Parliament over the next few decades

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competing claims would emerge about what

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happened over Christmas 1980 at the twin

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basis more witnesses would emerge often

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00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:34,360
with incredible claims skeptics would

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pounce on inconsistencies and try to

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00:18:43,380 --> 00:18:39,820
find rational explanations for what

430
00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:43,390
happened so have you been suggested the

431
00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:46,240
whole thing was a hoax or that the

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airman had had a bit too much Christmas

433
00:18:55,070 --> 00:18:51,960
cheer or perhaps it was simply a mistake

434
00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:55,080
the nearby Orford ness lighthouse

435
00:19:00,900 --> 00:18:57,760
bouncing its powerful illumination

436
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:00,910
amongst the trees regardless of the

437
00:19:06,419 --> 00:19:03,610
attempts to debunk Rendlesham the

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00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:06,429
original witnesses the documents and the

439
00:19:12,270 --> 00:19:08,710
physical evidence all attest to

440
00:19:14,190 --> 00:19:12,280
something very genuine occurring the

441
00:19:16,350 --> 00:19:14,200
most cited piece of evidence in the

442
00:19:18,780 --> 00:19:16,360
Rendlesham forest case the halt memo

443
00:19:21,230 --> 00:19:18,790
provides a rare direct piece of

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00:19:24,570 --> 00:19:21,240
contemporary documentary UFO evidence

445
00:19:27,630 --> 00:19:24,580
signed by a senior member of the US

446
00:19:30,650 --> 00:19:27,640
military some critics have questioned

447
00:19:32,790 --> 00:19:30,660
the dating of this memo January 13th

448
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supposedly more than a week and a half

449
00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:35,410
after the incident occurred but this

450
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appears to be explained by the general

451
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confusion over the jurisdiction of the

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incident as such Colonel halt was told

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by his own commanders to hand the matter

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over to the British with the basis

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British liaison Donald Moreland on leaf

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alt elected to wait to act until he had

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00:19:57,690 --> 00:19:55,630
discussed it with Moreland when no third

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00:19:59,580 --> 00:19:57,700
of their activity and no evidence of any

459
00:20:03,150 --> 00:19:59,590
threat halt no longer regarded the

460
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:03,160
incident as especially urgent the halt

461
00:20:08,820 --> 00:20:06,250
memo was released to the public in 1983

462
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after the American citizens against UFO

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secrecy organization successfully

464
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:13,809
launched a Freedom of Information Act

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request to release the document both the

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USAF and the Ministry of Defence have

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consistently stated the activity

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detailed in the halt memo is of no

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defense

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chairman of the NATO military committee

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Lord Hill Norton thinks differently

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there's only two conceivable

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explanations for what happened either a

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UFO landed there causing the damage and

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collateral business or the deputy

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00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:48,520
commander of a United States nuclear

477
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armed airbase in Britain and several

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hundred of his men were hallucinating

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now I put it to you I put it to anybody

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with an atom of common sense either of

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those explanations and they are the only

482
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two possible explanations must be of

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Defense interest in the early 1990s

484
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while head of the a Modi's UFO desk

485
00:21:19,550 --> 00:21:17,110
researcher Nick Pope conducted a cold

486
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:19,560
case review into the Rendlesham incident

487
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according to Pope the reality was that

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the mot were unable to find any credible

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explanation for the incident and

490
00:21:34,890 --> 00:21:32,740
classified it as unexplained Pope thinks

491
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the original investigation was hobbled

492
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by confusion over jurisdiction the wrong

493
00:21:44,690 --> 00:21:41,190
date quoted in halts memo delays and

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some destruction of evidence

495
00:21:50,430 --> 00:21:47,980
suspiciously Charles a Gabriel the

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commander in chief of the USAF in Europe

497
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made an unscheduled trip to Bentwaters

498
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shortly after the incident Gabriel was

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briefed about the incident and removed a

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large amount of evidence much of which

501
00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:03,400
was never seen again Nick Pope reveals

502
00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:05,470
that Gabriel's intervention caused

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00:22:11,820 --> 00:22:08,710
disconnection at the mo D it directly

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00:22:14,010 --> 00:22:11,830
contradicts the official USAF lime that

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they had no interest in the incident and

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that it should be handed over to the

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British in fact the mo D was never made

508
00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:22,540
aware of Gabriel's visit what evidence

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00:22:27,130 --> 00:22:24,820
he took and the results of any

510
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:27,140
subsequent investigation

511
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skeptics have long struggled to dismiss

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the halt memo Colonel halts credibility

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00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:36,410
is difficult question as he had a

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distinguished 42 year military career

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and retired in 1991 with the highest

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peacetime award given by the Secretary

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of Defense

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halt never spoke publicly about the

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00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:53,720
incident until he retired he is

520
00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:56,510
therefore the most reputable senior

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00:23:01,169 --> 00:22:58,850
military figure for which we have direct

522
00:23:05,159 --> 00:23:01,179
contemporary documentary evidence

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00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:05,169
discussing an encounter in a UFO case

524
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:08,480
halts memo rules out the idea that the

525
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:10,610
incident may have been some kind of joke

526
00:23:16,930 --> 00:23:14,690
fueled by Yuletide spirit a deputy

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commander of a nuclear facility like

528
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halt would clearly never escalate such a

529
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hoax to the British government while his

530
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:25,610
memo cannot easily be dismissed the

531
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deputy commander is also the source of

532
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arguably an even more convincing piece

533
00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:34,730
of evidence in the form of an 18-minute

534
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audio tape of a real-life UFO encounter

535
00:23:44,110 --> 00:23:41,390
pulse 18 minute tape of the party

536
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:44,120
seven-hour expedition in the woods is

537
00:23:50,409 --> 00:23:47,690
unique amongst all UFO cases and that it

538
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:50,419
contains halt and several other military

539
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:53,360
personnel's live reactions to UFO

540
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phenomena occurring around them the

541
00:24:01,030 --> 00:23:58,250
officers featured on the tape are halt

542
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:01,040
sergeant Monroe nevels sergeant robert

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00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:03,530
ball sergeant adrian boost Inza and

544
00:24:08,919 --> 00:24:06,890
lieutenant bruce england the men can be

545
00:24:11,169 --> 00:24:08,929
heard inspecting the original landing

546
00:24:13,419 --> 00:24:11,179
site burrows and Penniston found two

547
00:24:15,790 --> 00:24:13,429
nights earlier and as they survey the

548
00:24:19,870 --> 00:24:15,800
area things start to get interesting

549
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[Applause]

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[Music]

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take it what we've seen is that bill is

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come this way come this way

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00:25:48,740 --> 00:25:46,070
as mentioned before one popular

554
00:25:51,290 --> 00:25:48,750
suggestion from skeptics to debunk what

555
00:25:53,390 --> 00:25:51,300
is captured on this tape is that the men

556
00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:53,400
were observing light from the nearby

557
00:25:59,360 --> 00:25:57,150
Orford ness lighthouse Vince thir cattle

558
00:26:02,330 --> 00:25:59,370
the local Forester who is familiar with

559
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:02,340
the site explained his theories on both

560
00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:03,930
the lights that the officers had

561
00:26:08,540 --> 00:26:06,360
witnessed and the physical trace marks

562
00:26:11,030 --> 00:26:08,550
believed to have been left behind from

563
00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:11,040
the craft 20 odd years of playing in

564
00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:13,830
woods taught me what what to see and

565
00:26:19,790 --> 00:26:16,470
this sight was ordinary it was just

566
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:19,800
ordinary and natural nothing strange or

567
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:22,050
unusual had happened there sure enough

568
00:26:27,260 --> 00:26:25,260
the landing site had some sticks marking

569
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:27,270
three of these which were roughly in a

570
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:31,110
triangle but as a Forester to me they

571
00:26:34,970 --> 00:26:32,880
were nothing more than rabbits grapes

572
00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:34,980
they certainly weren't the feet marks of

573
00:26:39,530 --> 00:26:37,500
some craft having landed every single

574
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,540
shred of physical evidence had seen

575
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:42,000
could be explained away naturally just

576
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:44,700
off to the side is where the alleged

577
00:26:49,790 --> 00:26:48,240
landing happened so the American patrol

578
00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:49,800
would have come through here somewhere

579
00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:51,870
and out to the edge of the forest which

580
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,390
is out an hour right from where you look

581
00:26:58,820 --> 00:26:56,400
out over the fields over the few houses

582
00:27:01,760 --> 00:26:58,830
and out towards the lighthouse I've been

583
00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:01,770
jogging down this track at night and the

584
00:27:05,330 --> 00:27:03,750
first time I saw the lighthouse I really

585
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:05,340
thought it was poachers with a lamp in

586
00:27:09,980 --> 00:27:08,130
the forest so I knew that two people who

587
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:09,990
weren't ready for it the lighthouse

588
00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:12,690
really appeared to be a pulsing light

589
00:27:17,030 --> 00:27:14,760
within the forest that I knew that from

590
00:27:19,970 --> 00:27:17,040
earlier and I think the fact that the

591
00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:19,980
lighthouse can only be seen from very

592
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,350
certain parts of the forest and one of

593
00:27:26,510 --> 00:27:24,000
them is exactly where they or the

594
00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:26,520
alleged landing happened while Thoreau

595
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:28,470
kettle's theory should obviously be

596
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:30,810
considered there are some serious issues

597
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:33,810
with his theories most obvious is that

598
00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:36,960
the lighthouse predates the then 38 year

599
00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:38,830
old military bases

600
00:27:43,289 --> 00:27:40,870
none of the thousands of men and women

601
00:27:45,899 --> 00:27:43,299
who had served at the base during the

602
00:27:50,130 --> 00:27:45,909
time had ever mistaken the lighthouse

603
00:27:52,590 --> 00:27:50,140
for a UFO before indeed since these were

604
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:52,600
US Air Force bases with military

605
00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:54,850
aircraft coming in and out multiple

606
00:27:59,370 --> 00:27:56,950
times a day it seems somewhat unlikely

607
00:28:01,019 --> 00:27:59,380
that trained Airmen would make such an

608
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:01,029
obvious mistake

609
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:03,610
furthermore the beam from the or furnace

610
00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:05,919
is deliberately dimmed when shining

611
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:08,500
England by a blocking plate fitted

612
00:28:13,889 --> 00:28:11,440
around the lens a lighthouses beam also

613
00:28:16,769 --> 00:28:13,899
fails to match the actual nature of the

614
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:16,779
observations made Colonel Charles halt

615
00:28:21,659 --> 00:28:19,090
himself also dismissed the lighthouse

616
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:21,669
theory stating that quote a lighthouse

617
00:28:26,129 --> 00:28:23,679
doesn't move through the forest a

618
00:28:28,289 --> 00:28:26,139
lighthouse does I go up and down it

619
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:28,299
doesn't explode doesn't change shape

620
00:28:34,830 --> 00:28:30,880
size doesn't send down beams of light

621
00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:34,840
from the sky and quote some of the

622
00:28:40,529 --> 00:28:37,929
military witnesses such as chimp Edison

623
00:28:42,899 --> 00:28:40,539
and Fred Buren had already stated they

624
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:42,909
had heard over the radios that radar

625
00:28:49,649 --> 00:28:45,250
stations had tracked an uncorrelated

626
00:28:51,950 --> 00:28:49,659
target or a bogey on the radar in her

627
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:51,960
book he can't tell the people author

628
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:54,610
Georgina Bruni fun former radar

629
00:28:59,759 --> 00:28:57,130
operators who claimed that a strange

630
00:29:01,740 --> 00:28:59,769
object had been tracked in Rendlesham on

631
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:01,750
the night of the first sightings

632
00:29:07,919 --> 00:29:05,110
more recently two USAF air traffic

633
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:07,929
controllers at Bentwaters have come

634
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:10,690
forward with similar accounts in an

635
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:13,120
interview with author and UFO researcher

636
00:29:17,879 --> 00:29:14,320
Robert Hastings

637
00:29:20,370 --> 00:29:17,889
James H Carey and Ivan our Barker give

638
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:20,380
their own testimony for the very first

639
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:22,510
time having seen the objects on radar

640
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:25,600
and then with their own eyes

641
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:27,250
I was just sitting there and I happened

642
00:29:33,330 --> 00:29:31,120
to see a dot come on the scope and it

643
00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:33,340
just went like one dotted beginning then

644
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:35,950
another dot another dot and it was gone

645
00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:37,570
so the scope is a hundred and twenty

646
00:29:42,029 --> 00:29:39,789
miles across it was just phenomenal me

647
00:29:43,649 --> 00:29:42,039
to see it go that fast all of a sudden

648
00:29:45,910 --> 00:29:43,659
here it come back across again it went

649
00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:45,920
one two and then in me

650
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:48,230
immediate right-hand turn and came right

651
00:29:52,570 --> 00:29:49,970
towards the base you know I just said

652
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:52,580
that can't be one of ours no jet at that

653
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:54,710
speed can make an immediate right-hand

654
00:29:59,860 --> 00:29:57,530
turn just absolutely phenomenal it's not

655
00:30:03,070 --> 00:29:59,870
like any radar target I've ever seen

656
00:30:05,620 --> 00:30:03,080
when they sweep would hit the target you

657
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:05,630
would have the entire back of it would

658
00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:08,480
be like a solid line traveling in the

659
00:30:14,620 --> 00:30:11,750
extremely high rate of speed it passed

660
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:14,630
over the control tower and then it

661
00:30:18,490 --> 00:30:18,050
stopped I've never seen anything in my

662
00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:18,500
life

663
00:30:24,370 --> 00:30:21,350
like a maneuverability that happened

664
00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:24,380
with this object was an orangish color

665
00:30:29,410 --> 00:30:26,990
it sort of popped into my mind at the

666
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:29,420
time that somebody's flying a basketball

667
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:33,110
out here there were like lights around

668
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:35,570
the center of it but it wasn't like

669
00:30:40,540 --> 00:30:37,910
running lights or navigational lights it

670
00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:40,550
was more like portholes and then you

671
00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:42,340
were seeing the light from the inside

672
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:44,990
coming out it wasn't general flashing

673
00:30:51,310 --> 00:30:47,450
lights or anything but it hovered

674
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,320
momentarily reversed its course and went

675
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:54,320
back out at a high rate of speed the mo

676
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:57,410
DS released UFO FILES do demonstrate

677
00:31:01,660 --> 00:30:59,360
that they sought to corroborate the

678
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:01,670
radar readings but were hampered by the

679
00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:04,310
fact that records had been destroyed and

680
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:05,870
some of the cameras used to record the

681
00:31:11,930 --> 00:31:08,810
radar readings were conveniently not

682
00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:11,940
working during the days in question

683
00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:14,310
while there are countless witnesses with

684
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:16,860
highly credible backgrounds that witness

685
00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:19,050
the events in Rendlesham forest there

686
00:31:24,140 --> 00:31:21,240
simply will always be those who want to

687
00:31:26,540 --> 00:31:24,150
attribute prosaic answers to what

688
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:26,550
happened and besides the lighthouse

689
00:31:31,220 --> 00:31:28,530
theories there are a few other

690
00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:31,230
explanations that should at least be

691
00:31:36,670 --> 00:31:34,230
brought up it's notable that the period

692
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:36,680
of the 25th and 26th of December

693
00:31:42,650 --> 00:31:39,690
coincided with a confluence of unusual

694
00:31:44,750 --> 00:31:42,660
atmospheric phenomena shortly before the

695
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:44,760
first cluster of sightings at Rendlesham

696
00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:49,200
a Russian cosmos 749 satellite burned up

697
00:31:55,090 --> 00:31:51,720
over Western Europe and was widely

698
00:31:58,130 --> 00:31:55,100
reported as a UFO by multiple civilians

699
00:32:00,800 --> 00:31:58,140
another rare event the burning up of a

700
00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:00,810
meteor in the atmosphere occurred in the

701
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:04,200
early hours of the 26th of December this

702
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,450
meteor produced an unusually bright

703
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:08,880
fireball and was visible throughout

704
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:12,930
southeast England there are pros and

705
00:32:17,540 --> 00:32:15,510
cons to these alternative possibilities

706
00:32:19,670 --> 00:32:17,550
it's certainly a striking coincidence

707
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,680
that the period of the observed UFO

708
00:32:24,260 --> 00:32:21,840
activity correspondent in time and

709
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:24,270
location with at least three viable

710
00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:27,810
sources of false positives meteor

711
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:30,800
satellites and of course the lighthouse

712
00:32:35,510 --> 00:32:33,600
these clearly cannot be overlooked and

713
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:35,520
must surely account for at least some of

714
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:37,170
the lights people claimed have seen

715
00:32:41,899 --> 00:32:39,570
during that Christmas weekend

716
00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:41,909
if these mistaken sightings could be

717
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:43,830
eliminated from the list of observed

718
00:32:48,139 --> 00:32:46,320
UFOs at Rendlesham then the incident

719
00:32:51,409 --> 00:32:48,149
might start to look a little less

720
00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:51,419
impressive however the rocket and the

721
00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:53,820
meteor are both short-lived events and

722
00:32:58,609 --> 00:32:56,369
don't adequately explain the nature of

723
00:33:00,169 --> 00:32:58,619
most of the observations nor the fact

724
00:33:03,340 --> 00:33:00,179
that they were spread out over several

725
00:33:06,619 --> 00:33:03,350
hours over three separate nights

726
00:33:08,869 --> 00:33:06,629
likewise the lighthouse cannot account

727
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,879
for the majority of the sightings as it

728
00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:10,559
simply was not visible in their

729
00:33:14,249 --> 00:33:12,220
locations

730
00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:14,259
so besides these alternative

731
00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:17,320
explanations I want to focus again unto

732
00:33:22,499 --> 00:33:20,169
the primary witnesses mentioned earlier

733
00:33:24,869 --> 00:33:22,509
who seemed to be keeping this case alive

734
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:24,879
with developing stories

735
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:27,490
those witnesses are Jim Penniston and

736
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:31,690
John Burroughs Jim Penniston now says he

737
00:33:36,090 --> 00:33:34,330
spent 45 minutes examining the craft he

738
00:33:39,169 --> 00:33:36,100
observed in the first night

739
00:33:42,509 --> 00:33:39,179
noting symbols on the body of the craft

740
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:42,519
he also says he touched the skin of the

741
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:45,610
craft in received a telepathic message

742
00:33:51,060 --> 00:33:48,850
in binary code no it's absolutely was

743
00:33:53,310 --> 00:33:51,070
tall Pathak it wasn't like I could see

744
00:33:56,460 --> 00:33:53,320
it in front of me like visually it was

745
00:34:00,570 --> 00:33:56,470
it was like it was a pictorial it was

746
00:34:02,669 --> 00:34:00,580
running a movie in my in my brain it

747
00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:02,679
wasn't there was no mind's eye kind of

748
00:34:07,710 --> 00:34:04,750
thing yeah it wasn't I could physically

749
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:07,720
actually see something though and it was

750
00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:10,240
flashes of zeros and ones in later we

751
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:12,280
find out some type of binary code which

752
00:34:18,899 --> 00:34:15,250
I be honestly I have trouble with

753
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:18,909
algebra or math person by no means love

754
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:21,970
on computers and in 1980 I don't think

755
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:24,609
we even had computers that we used so it

756
00:34:31,950 --> 00:34:27,520
was foreign I did record the grid of the

757
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:31,960
glyphs at the scene but when I went home

758
00:34:37,470 --> 00:34:35,649
in a falling day um oh I can't get these

759
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:37,480
images I mean they're just like they're

760
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:40,270
1 0-0 they're all in my head

761
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:42,970
so I felt compelled to write know so I

762
00:34:46,819 --> 00:34:43,929
grabbed my notebook

763
00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:46,829
flipped it open and then I did the most

764
00:34:51,379 --> 00:34:49,270
crazy thing I thought in the world I

765
00:34:55,139 --> 00:34:51,389
wrote these 1 Cicero's all we found like

766
00:34:57,359 --> 00:34:55,149
12 14 pages of them and anyway a certain

767
00:35:00,030 --> 00:34:57,369
point when I got done I don't want

768
00:35:02,730 --> 00:35:00,040
images no I'm not at the crap I'm at

769
00:35:05,099 --> 00:35:02,740
home I go to back to Ipswich and then

770
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:05,109
this is where this is happening and then

771
00:35:11,010 --> 00:35:07,569
once I done it though the imaging was

772
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,020
gone so I thought great now can I tell

773
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:14,079
somebody that that I went I was shaved

774
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:16,210
imaging in my living room and a home in

775
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:17,570
Ipswich and

776
00:35:23,740 --> 00:35:20,450
I had arrived on him okay now I did not

777
00:35:25,630 --> 00:35:23,750
tell anybody that happens since coming

778
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:25,640
forward with these theories Jim

779
00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:27,530
Penniston had this binary code

780
00:35:33,070 --> 00:35:30,230
deciphered and it apparently picked up

781
00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:33,080
the message quote exploration of

782
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:35,470
humanity continuous for planetary

783
00:35:40,780 --> 00:35:37,610
advancement and code

784
00:35:43,690 --> 00:35:40,790
there are also some coordinate points in

785
00:35:46,060 --> 00:35:43,700
the binary code to high present the

786
00:35:48,990 --> 00:35:46,070
location of a legendary advanced and

787
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:49,000
highly moral ethical earth civilization

788
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:52,010
now the location of a submerged island

789
00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:53,690
west of Ireland

790
00:35:58,570 --> 00:35:56,060
this and several other coordinates were

791
00:36:01,360 --> 00:35:58,580
found as well this will be explored in

792
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:01,370
an upcoming book by Jim Penniston called

793
00:36:07,660 --> 00:36:04,610
the Rendlesham enigma Jim Patterson's

794
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:07,670
claims are intriguing but many do

795
00:36:12,730 --> 00:36:10,310
question its veracity in fact there is

796
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:12,740
no mention of this binary code in his

797
00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:15,650
original witness statements nor is there

798
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:17,390
anything remotely resembling this

799
00:36:21,070 --> 00:36:18,890
version of events in his radio

800
00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:21,080
communications with his commanders at

801
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:24,230
the base John Burroughs also does not

802
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:25,850
remember Penniston making any notes

803
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:27,890
during the entire period they observed

804
00:36:32,890 --> 00:36:30,800
the object but there are missing gaps in

805
00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:32,900
time between the two witnesses when the

806
00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:36,200
event occurred so I guess for now we'll

807
00:36:41,339 --> 00:36:38,740
just have to take Jim's word for it

808
00:36:43,980 --> 00:36:41,349
the next string of events is much more

809
00:36:46,859 --> 00:36:43,990
grounded in official documentation and

810
00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:46,869
just pure fact it involves John

811
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:49,150
Burroughs the officer who accompanied

812
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,250
Penniston that night but it also

813
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:53,680
involves a legal battle the help of a

814
00:36:59,130 --> 00:36:56,320
sixth term American Senator and perhaps

815
00:37:01,260 --> 00:36:59,140
an entirely new outlet on the Rendlesham

816
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:01,270
forest instinct and what it may have

817
00:37:06,750 --> 00:37:04,240
been but let's get back to John for just

818
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:06,760
a moment because he was one of the

819
00:37:11,970 --> 00:37:08,830
officers that got closest to the craft

820
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:11,980
and as the years went on he became more

821
00:37:15,660 --> 00:37:14,290
and more sick from what he believed was

822
00:37:19,290 --> 00:37:15,670
due to the event that night in the

823
00:37:20,970 --> 00:37:19,300
forest in 2011 John Burroughs began

824
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:20,980
suffering periodic life-threatening

825
00:37:27,690 --> 00:37:24,640
atrial fibrillation also known as a fib

826
00:37:30,329 --> 00:37:27,700
a quivering or irregular heartbeat that

827
00:37:32,099 --> 00:37:30,339
can lead to blood clots stroke heart

828
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failure and other heart related

829
00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:35,230
complications he filed for Veterans

830
00:37:40,770 --> 00:37:37,990
Administration medical benefits but was

831
00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:40,780
denied when the VA staff said there was

832
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:43,540
no record of his serving at RAF

833
00:37:49,170 --> 00:37:46,810
Bentwaters and Woodbridge John sought

834
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:49,180
legal help in Jackson Mississippi and

835
00:37:56,490 --> 00:37:53,530
hired attorney Pat fresca John's VA case

836
00:38:00,270 --> 00:37:56,500
then went to the office of Arizona's US

837
00:38:02,670 --> 00:38:00,280
Senator John McCain eventually the VA

838
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:02,680
admitted knowledge of John's service at

839
00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:05,440
RAF Bentwaters but found those medical

840
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:10,390
records were classified by 2013 needing

841
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:12,910
open-heart surgery to repair seriously

842
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:15,730
damaged valves John was angry and

843
00:38:20,910 --> 00:38:17,770
frustrated and not being able to get VA

844
00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:20,920
medical disability coverage it was at

845
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:23,470
this point when he learned of a former

846
00:38:29,550 --> 00:38:27,010
top-secret UK restricted project called

847
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:29,560
project condign it had been quietly

848
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:33,130
Declassified in 2006 and it contained

849
00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:35,290
information that directly linked

850
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:37,780
exposure to radiation to possible

851
00:38:43,580 --> 00:38:39,510
unexplained lights

852
00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:43,590
in the sky here former UFO desk official

853
00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:46,500
Nick Pope describes project condign for

854
00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:51,660
us and its relevancy to this case was an

855
00:38:58,490 --> 00:38:54,300
intelligence study into the UFO

856
00:39:01,010 --> 00:38:58,500
phenomenon carried out by the Defense

857
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:01,020
Intelligence staff in the Ministry of

858
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:05,130
Defense project condign was an attempt

859
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:08,310
to do a proper intelligence assessment

860
00:39:14,540 --> 00:39:11,850
of the UFO phenomenon the condign report

861
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:14,550
the final report is arguably one of the

862
00:39:24,770 --> 00:39:17,850
most important UFO documents of all time

863
00:39:27,410 --> 00:39:24,780
and ran to over 468 pages I think at the

864
00:39:31,820 --> 00:39:27,420
time its classification was secret

865
00:39:34,910 --> 00:39:31,830
you came eyes only a proper intelligence

866
00:39:37,850 --> 00:39:34,920
assessment attempted to draw together

867
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:37,860
all the data that we had and really also

868
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:41,370
the more important strategic question

869
00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:44,310
what is visible this

870
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:48,060
never mind the case-by-case analysis put

871
00:39:52,070 --> 00:39:50,010
it all together what have we got what

872
00:39:55,070 --> 00:39:52,080
are we dealing with bear in mind this

873
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:55,080
was a British intelligence study highly

874
00:39:59,780 --> 00:39:58,110
classified at the time it was written it

875
00:40:04,300 --> 00:39:59,790
was never conceived that it was going to

876
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:04,310
be released and and essentially it says

877
00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:07,890
yeah the witnesses that encountered the

878
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:11,160
UFO in Rendlesham forest were probably

879
00:40:18,410 --> 00:40:14,970
irradiated by it once John and Jim's

880
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:18,420
attorney put that document to the VA and

881
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:22,170
said hey wait a minute you've denied the

882
00:40:26,570 --> 00:40:24,270
the US government has denied that this

883
00:40:27,569 --> 00:40:26,580
ever took place you might want to read

884
00:40:29,999 --> 00:40:27,579
this British

885
00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:30,009
halogens assessment finally under

886
00:40:34,799 --> 00:40:31,839
pressure from Senator John McCain's

887
00:40:37,099 --> 00:40:34,809
office the VA arranged John's urgent

888
00:40:40,769 --> 00:40:37,109
open-heart surgery from mid-december

889
00:40:43,259 --> 00:40:40,779
2013 he began to recover to more normal

890
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:43,269
health but without VA medical benefits

891
00:40:48,359 --> 00:40:45,910
or his RAF Bentwaters medical records

892
00:40:51,209 --> 00:40:48,369
and he didn't believe that to be right

893
00:40:53,370 --> 00:40:51,219
that officers were not being treated for

894
00:40:56,249 --> 00:40:53,380
what presumably happened during this and

895
00:40:58,849 --> 00:40:56,259
several other close encounters with UFOs

896
00:41:01,739 --> 00:40:58,859
and their physical effects on officers

897
00:41:03,989 --> 00:41:01,749
here john burroughs states such at the

898
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:03,999
citizens hearing on disclosure two

899
00:41:09,690 --> 00:41:07,630
former senators in 2013 at the National

900
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:09,700
Press Club the first night there were

901
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:11,920
three over someone out there the second

902
00:41:14,999 --> 00:41:13,569
night we had the shift commander Andy on

903
00:41:17,069 --> 00:41:15,009
duty flight chief on the third night

904
00:41:18,839 --> 00:41:17,079
Colonel Hall took a team out there and

905
00:41:22,589 --> 00:41:18,849
there was also other personnel in the

906
00:41:26,190 --> 00:41:22,599
woods and different people saw different

907
00:41:27,479 --> 00:41:26,200
things so that's one of the reasons why

908
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:27,489
I would come forward besides our health

909
00:41:32,729 --> 00:41:30,609
issues is I feel it's necessary that

910
00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:32,739
anyone that was even out in that area

911
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:34,420
should have the opportunity to be

912
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:37,150
checked out medically and and be told

913
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:38,529
what they were exposed to especially

914
00:41:43,499 --> 00:41:40,930
something that's over 30 years old what

915
00:41:45,390 --> 00:41:43,509
the heck was going on out there that

916
00:41:49,140 --> 00:41:45,400
would draw this much attention from the

917
00:41:51,989 --> 00:41:49,150
agencies involved to this day what would

918
00:41:53,729 --> 00:41:51,999
still be classified and if it is what

919
00:41:56,099 --> 00:41:53,739
did we have or what were you dealing

920
00:41:57,870 --> 00:41:56,109
with that would still remain silent

921
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:57,880
today almost every weapon we've ever

922
00:42:02,039 --> 00:41:59,920
developed back in that time frame has

923
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:02,049
been exposed that we're aware of and yet

924
00:42:05,579 --> 00:42:03,910
today this is still classified and we

925
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:05,589
can't even receive medical treatment for

926
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:06,880
it

927
00:42:13,860 --> 00:42:11,410
by January 23rd 2014 John began filing

928
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:13,870
Freedom of Information requests with

929
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:14,530
emod

930
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:18,160
and by the spring and fall of 2014 the

931
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:21,280
UK Ministry of Defence finally admitted

932
00:42:25,970 --> 00:42:24,850
and withheld at least 18 classified UFO

933
00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:25,980
FILES

934
00:42:39,150 --> 00:43:02,600
[Music]

935
00:43:07,890 --> 00:43:05,340
since John Burroughs and Jim Penniston

936
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:07,900
have come forward many other witnesses

937
00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:11,200
have followed suit in 2016

938
00:43:16,770 --> 00:43:13,990
Steve Langara who served as a police

939
00:43:19,170 --> 00:43:16,780
sergeant for the USAF stated that he was

940
00:43:22,130 --> 00:43:19,180
guarding the weapons storage area during

941
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:22,140
the event and the highly sophisticated

942
00:43:27,810 --> 00:43:25,330
alarm systems had been triggered by

943
00:43:29,790 --> 00:43:27,820
something over the base he would

944
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:29,800
describe very similar accounts as

945
00:43:35,790 --> 00:43:32,890
Charles Holt presumably witnessing these

946
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:35,800
same craft at the same time at

947
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:39,490
completely different vantage points it

948
00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:42,160
is no easy task to cover this entire

949
00:43:47,310 --> 00:43:45,340
event the detailed testimony of those

950
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:47,320
involved and then trying to come out on

951
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:50,530
the other side with answers despite

952
00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:53,490
controversy debates half-truths lies and

953
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:55,380
documented proof

954
00:44:02,300 --> 00:43:58,890
the hard evidence from the time remains

955
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:02,310
out engaged whatever stories are told

956
00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:05,370
and whatever information continues to

957
00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:09,060
develop something very real happened in

958
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:11,700
the woods at Rendlesham forest that as

959
00:44:21,850 --> 00:44:14,510
the mo D files themselves now conclude

960
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:24,980
this episode was Cova in and directly

961
00:44:30,650 --> 00:44:28,530
inspired by the unredacted calm audio

962
00:44:32,890 --> 00:44:30,660
clips were provided by countless youtube

963
00:44:35,210 --> 00:44:32,900
channels under the fair use agreement

964
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:35,220
selected audio provided by jeremy

965
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:37,290
peasley the National Archives the

966
00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:40,110
disclosure project the citizens hearing

967
00:44:46,610 --> 00:44:43,500
Exopolitics Germany the BBC and CNN

968
00:44:47,630 --> 00:44:46,620
special assignments this episode was

969
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:47,640
produced by me

970
00:44:52,010 --> 00:44:49,770
Ryan Sprague with special thanks to

971
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:52,020
Peter Robbins Nick Pope Jim Penniston

972
00:44:57,350 --> 00:44:54,930
John Burroughs and the many men and

973
00:45:00,290 --> 00:44:57,360
women who served under the US Air Force

974
00:45:02,750 --> 00:45:00,300
before during and after the Rendlesham

975
00:45:04,430 --> 00:45:02,760
incident my extended thanks to all those

976
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,440
servicemen and women throughout the

977
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:06,960
world who defend our country and beyond

978
00:45:12,830 --> 00:45:10,170
thank you to the e1 podcast network and

979
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:12,840
especially to you for listening have a

980
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:15,780
very happy holiday season and I'll see

981
00:45:21,860 --> 00:45:17,760
you here next week for a very special

982
00:45:24,110 --> 00:45:21,870
episode so until then remember keep your

983
00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:24,120
feet on the ground but never stop

984
00:45:31,230 --> 00:45:26,500
searching somewhere in the skies

985
00:45:32,660 --> 00:45:31,240
[Music]

986
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:32,670
[Applause]

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00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:35,110
somewhere in the skies is produced by

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Third Kind productions in association

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00:45:40,590 --> 00:45:38,800
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